valerio92
00sabato 27 settembre 2008 00:15
In your opinion is the way of thinking that Bandakar people showed to Richard and his friends?
I explein me they think that only without violence this (violence) could finish, it's the same thought of the Cattolic "give the other cheek".
I think it's completely wrong 'cause as Richard said them "without rebelling yourself at a crime agains you, you invite the bad people only to try it again"
What do you think about it????
singularity
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 16:42
this one is a bit stiky... yes it is similar to catholic upbringing... and yes i am roman catholic... but within my religion i've rebelled... now sometimes it is best to just turn the other cheek... but in most cases it is not, you must react to keep yourself safe and sane...
the attitude of the bandakar seems to me purely fictional, it is not a realistic way of life... people in that society don't have a need to think for themselves... and that is what i object to... society should never take away the ability for people to think for themselves... in many ways the bandakar and the imperial order advocate some of the same things... things that take away life...
valerio92
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 19:36
Re:
singularity, 02/10/2008 16.42:
this one is a bit stiky... yes it is similar to catholic upbringing... and yes i am roman catholic... but within my religion i've rebelled... now sometimes it is best to just turn the other cheek... but in most cases it is not, you must react to keep yourself safe and sane...
the attitude of the bandakar seems to me purely fictional, it is not a realistic way of life... people in that society don't have a need to think for themselves... and that is what i object to... society should never take away the ability for people to think for themselves... in many ways the bandakar and the imperial order advocate some of the same things... things that take away life...
How can I not quote you????? this is what I really mean with my post
singularity
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 21:39
not fair --- again you ended the discussion...
valerio92
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 22:09
no I haven't end this discussion
I've only agreed with you on a point but what happen if Bandakarans follow blindly the Order and invade the New World???? If you remember they were all without the smallest part of magic so they could be the cause of many problems that our heroes had to face in great haste
singularity
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 23:40
well... the bandakars were already used by the imperial order to enter the wizard's keep and capture zedd and addie and many of the magic books there... they were also being used to make babies without a trickle of magic... the order was well on its way to killing magic...
valerio92
00giovedì 2 ottobre 2008 23:45
yes but if the magic is killed how can they survive???? As it is written in the series without magic a lot of creatures will die and the whole ecosystem will die with them so how can it possible that they don't know this consequence?
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 00:24
it is a consequence that the imperial order does not believe in... most people will survive only the creatures of magic will die... like scarlet the dragon, the night wisps etc...
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 15:42
yes but as it is written in "Soul of the fire" whole ecosystem was fonded from magic creatures and if they die the ecosystem will die soon
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 15:52
the ecosystem that supports magic... if we look at the old world where magical creature are no more we see that life has gone on... it did not die... magic and magical creature died out, but not the people... this can be seen also in phantom and cofessor... the people are still alive although they are losing many of their magical abilities... people would live on but scarlett the dragon and the night wisps and other magical creature would die out
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 16:44
I'm not still convinced.....
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 17:05
well then what do you think would have happened if richard did not open the boxes of orden? and let's say the sister of the dark didn't open them either... what do you think would happen to their world?
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 17:21
I think all the life on Earth will die
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 17:44
sorry... life on Earth won't die because we have no magic...
and i still don't think that all life would die... it would change so that there would be no magic at all... but the people would not die... trees that have no magic would not die... only the magic and magical creatures would die...
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 17:56
So what Zedd said in Soul of fire explaning to Richard the disaster of the Chimes that are free you think it's incorrect?
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 18:00
i think zedd truely believes it... but i don't think that all life would perish... all magic would but not life
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 18:02
but if the world survives what is the problem in letting them free????
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 18:16
the chimes destroy magic... richard would not have his war wizard powers any more... there would be no mother confessor, and the sword of truth would be an ordinary sword... the world would be exactly as the imperial order wants it.
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 18:25
as I thought you think the same of me
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 19:43
no... i don't 'think the same of me' i 'think the same as me'
mistake... mistake... mistake... you know what that means... only i still don't have a whip
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 23:15
I'll imagine me whiped (it works also better)
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 23:21
LMAO
i would still like to have a smily with a whip...
valerio92
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 23:43
ok tomorrow I'm going to ask it to Bayle and perhaps he will be able to solve the problem
singularity
00venerdì 3 ottobre 2008 23:46
i don't know what to say... especially since i'm being plain silly about it all
valerio92
00sabato 4 ottobre 2008 15:55
ok so what we were talking about before went OT?
singularity
00sabato 4 ottobre 2008 16:13
i think we've been OT for quite a while...
but the bandakar society, to wrap things up, in my opinion is purely fictional and has elements of the imperial order philosiphy embeded into it.
valerio92
00sabato 4 ottobre 2008 23:25
I don't understand your reasoning excuse me. Can you explain it also in English please?
singularity
00domenica 5 ottobre 2008 17:16
the society promotes laziness and the expoitation of the hard work of the few... if you still don't understand my comparison let me know
valerio92
00domenica 5 ottobre 2008 23:21
Ok now it's clearer
singularity
00lunedì 6 ottobre 2008 14:37
ok, so it's clearer, but you've said nothing about what you think...